Science side of tumblr, I demand an explanation
Simple. What you see there is not wine, but blood. The four sacred glass mages are merely raising it up with their magic to present it to the Dark Lord in a feeble attempt to keep him from decimating their homeland
Thanks science side *tosses a biscuit*
you really don’t
not at fucking
It appears absolutely no one realizes this character (assuming this story takes places during the time in which it was filmed) grew up during The Troubles of Northern Ireland.
You don’t if he’s Northern Irish. You don’t know if he’s Catholic. You don’t know if he grew up watching his people get murdered by Loyalist Protestants and British soldiers who carried heavy racial prejudice against Irish Catholics (hellooo, Bloody Sunday anyone?), who had for centuries been characterized as barbaric, racially inferior, lowly people who needed to be wiped out or converted. Attacks by the IRA, and therefore retaliation by the British, didn’t completely cease until 1998, I believe? This film came out in 2002.
You don’t know if he was an Irishman who grew up in England. Bomb attacks carried out by the IRA in England kindled misplaced aggression toward innocent Irish civilians living among the English population and Irish people were verbally and physically attacked and their businesses targeted. Perhaps similar to how ordinary Muslims bear the brunt of aggression after attacks by Muslim extremists…
You can still find yourself threatened and demeaned if you’re a Catholic in Northern Ireland or if you’re a Protestant in Ireland and some older dude in a pub in a smaller town straight up asks you if you’re Catholic or not and you’re afraid what’ll happen if you don’t lie about who you are.
You can still hear casual racism toward Irish people in everyday life and in publicly broadcast media in the UK.
You can still see and hear “Kill All Irish” and other pretty heavy anti-Irish sentiment among Loyalists in Northern Ireland who don’t consider themselves Irish at all.
Just because it now appears that the island of Ireland has been allowed to move on from war and their appearance and culture generally allows them to blend into and reap the benefits of the White European demographic doesn’t mean that this character does not have the background suitable to fully empathize with her. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn’t, we just don’t know his story.
But I guess you’ve never been demeaned as a Paddy or a Taig so you wouldn’t understand what it feels like, would you?
don’t worry dude it’s tumblr the mentality here is basically “if you’re lighter than a coconut you’re not allowed to have any feelings and your life is automatically perfect but that’s not racist at all bc your skin is lighter than someone else’s and that means it’s ok”
not enough upward pointies in the world
plot twist: being Irish actually sucks, seriously
I normally don’t comment on posts like these but the ignorance of this makes me so fucking angry because absolutely no one in the world seems to give a shit about the Irish because we all just seem to be so happy and drunk all the time. Because they’re white, right? So obviously they have no idea what hardship means.
*bursts in* *breathes heavily* Did someone mention the Northern Irish Troubles
First of all, pretty much yes to everything about Ireland up there. Growing up in Northern Ireland, I saw the violence from all sides - my father is a British Protestant and my mother is a Catholic, so I basically couldn’t win because according to one side I was a dirty taig and according to the other I was a filthy hun. Luckily I managed to make friends with a mix of both Catholics and Protestants who all thought this attitude was just as stupid as I did, but between all of us, we saw our fair share of sectarian violence, and the Catholics, without a doubt, got it worse.
Irish Catholics were robbed of their country by Protestant invaders centuries ago. They fought and fought and eventually got the Irish Free State (now the Republic of Ireland), however, thanks to the deliberate plantation of Protestants to eradicate the Catholic majority in the North, it was left under British rule. Since then, Catholics have been murdered, arrested, terrorised, tortured and driven out of their houses just for being Irish Catholics.
I moved from Northern Ireland in 2010 and to the day I left, the violence was not over. I couldn’t wear certain colours in certain areas because I would be beaten. I had fake names depending on where I was stopped, as attackers can determine what religion you are from your name alone (and this is a trick I learned, too, for defence). I can recite my rights if I’m arrested because if I was stopped in certain areas I could be, on the assumption I could be Catholic. I know the subtle sectarian geography of the city of Belfast because if I cross the road in the wrong place I’m in enemy territory. I have been chased by a group of forty people, throwing fireworks at me, because they assumed I was a Catholic. Police were parked on nearby streets and didn’t acknowledge the commotion. My friends and I walk past graffiti screamed “Kill All Taigs”. A fifteen year old boy who lived half an hour from me was beaten to death by a group of adults for being Catholic. For fifty years, people have been detained without trial, tortured, beaten and wrongly imprisoned just for being Catholic, because apparently, being Catholic means you must be in the IRA.
Even now, I can’t escape it. I have a noticeable Northern Irish accent, which is stronger when I’m around people from there and is noticeable as a strong accent whenever I’m not in the country. At airports, I’m always the one stopped and frisked if they hear my accent. At ferry ports, it’s alway my car (which has Northern Irish registration plates) that’s “randomly selected” for a search. All of this just happened to me, a person who got off lightly.
If you think that Irish people haven’t faced oppression and abuse, you’re wrong. If you think that Northern Ireland is past its troubles, you’re wrong. It sickens me that this happens only a few hundred miles away from England and no one acknowledges it exists, because hey, they’re just some terrorist Catholics, right?
Contrary to popular belief, racism isn’t America centric. Just ask the Serbians and Croatians.
REBLOGGING FOR THE LAST ONE JFC THANK YOU.
This. Also, for us Italians, Sicily: most of the Italian side of my family traces their roots to poor fishermen and the like there up until just before the World Wars. For the past thousand years or so, when we haven’t been under imperialist rule by Rome, the Muslim empires, or Spain, we usually lived in fear of our own countrymen in the Mafia, which is still quietly in control of much of the region’s economy and politics today.
Yeah. It’s long. Doesn’t mean Tumblr doesn’t need to see it. Also:
So Irish people were often treated with the same disdain as blacks. You’re the worst kind of person if this post can’t teach you that white =/= privileged.
Hey tumblr this is a good fuckin read you wanna know why? My dad came to America at 19 to escape this all. Yeeeep. It’s not played up at all and its really that bad. I really hate to be like this because Irish oppression is not nearly as common in the US but yeah
"If you’re white you can’t experience racism!"
1) the Irish are a very unique case in terms of racism. In the north american context they’ve assimilated amazingly well by leveraging their white skin tones and anti blackness and as such are considered white
2) Italy guy. That’s called classism. Not racism. The fact that Italian mobsters control italy can’t really be linked to racism or anything else in this convo….
3) I don’t know if you can classify Yugoslavs as white but you did??? That’s just rewriting history to make your point..
I really dislike this post because it all seems to be a bunch of white people being like: look! There was a point where light skinned not considered white people were discriminated against thus we can be discriminated against! Racism affects us too. (Which of course leads to white tears and cries of reverse racism)
I don’t know about in ireland/Britain as they have a weird relationship but everywhere else especially in the NA context. Well.
Everything stated above is true and most importantly the CONTEXT folks. This is a British movie, Bend it Like Bekham, and it takes place in the cont… It’s so fucking late but I’m gonna hash this shit out. She’s Indian, there’s fucking racism in Britain and racism in Britain is not racism in America like racism in America is not like Racism in Mexico, or Brazil or pick your country.
The problem here is thinking about racism as ONE CONCEPT that travels through time and space and in constituted THE SAME in every place on earth. The way the Irish are understood and racialized in Britain is very very very different from how the Irish and people of Irish descent are understood and racialized in America because of how race is constituted and understood in this country as opposed to Britain.
When someone says an Irish person is white in the US and doesn’t experience racism the way, for example, an Asian person does, that is not in any way comparable to the way an Irish person, or a Welsh person, or a Scottish person experiences difference and marginalization in Britain.
In this scene the girl who is a second generation Brit of Indian descent is negotiating the reality of being marginalized on the basis of her race. She’s of Indian descent but the derogatory term for people like her in Britain is “paki” short for Pakistani who are not indians. That’s the cruelty and the “joke” of that specific term and the joke is on her. She plays soccer, she idolizes a British national sports hero, she speaks with a British accent because she was born and lived her entire life there but she gets dismissed on account of her “race” and not only that but they don’t even get her supposed place of origin right, she’s a “paki” and so is everyone who looks like her. It’s layer upon layer of misrepresentation and dismissal, that’s the violence of that act and understanding that requires knowing the specific context of south asian folk in Britain, of what’s actually being done to her in calling her that.
The beautiful thing about this scene is that the Irish dude, her coach (I think, I forgot what the deal was) has a visceral understanding of what that feels like, though his experience with marginalization and “racism” is not the same as hers. But as an Irish man in Britain he is also racialized as was pointed out in the posts above. It’s one of those beautiful moments when folks who understand the pain of a world that paints you as less than human coming together and empathizing with one another and uplifting one another and what not and some of the people who reblogged this scene went there AGAIN and made it about white tears. You got it wrong.
You know when you don’t go dancing in 17 million years and you really think “wow I should go soon” and you never do and it’s a repeating cycle of tragedy
Rough sketch of Ben.
2/23/2014 - Mouse on Whiteboard.